![]() ![]() Creating simple GUI for simple things is very very very simple with it. VB isn't a tool for hacker it's a development environment for the masses and as such is a huge success. This is due in a large part to how hard swing is to use. It has been twice as hard at the very least to get a good GUI going with swing. While I may be stupid I am surrounded with lots of smart people some of which are swing experts and the results of our GUI work in swing are anything but elegant. I have done good GUI's in both and you are simply wrong. Make a good GUI, it would be much easier compared to Though at many places the implementation is crappy, I had hoped IntelliJ could hide the messy parts of swing and make it all a lot easier to use. Swing could have been made a lot easier to use. But unlike swing MFC has to bear the cross of win32. I have untangled the message-mapping macros and they are not better or worse then swing just different. Win32 is a mess and MFC Internals are not that wonderful either but the whole point of Visual C++ is that you don't have to worry about it most the time. I worked also with win32 API and MFC before a few While the UI Designer will be some help it is not the powerful GUI builder that Java lacks and that I was hopping IntelliJ would be building. What’s pathetic? that I don’t want to waste my time on silly GUI stuff that other development environments do for me? I say congratulations to JetBrains for the GUI designer. Parent JPanel, which is then added to a JFrame, JDialog, or what otherĬontainer the end user wants ( or at least makes it easier to maintain With the way the JetBrains GUI tool works, the form would be found to a ![]() IDEA plugin, but with everything bound to the JFrame, that was difficult Hardcoded to a JFrame, I wanted to migrate/port part of it to run as an And it does it very well.Īwhile ago I was working on a project which had originally been designedĪs a straight GUI swing app, all the forms ( made with Net Beans ) were Sure, its different than others, its not a "GUI Form Designer" which bindsĪ form for a dialog or window, but its a layout tool that binds what you I'd also go as far as to say that I think JetBrains have got the UIĭesigner working in a way that is a hell of alot better than any others. ![]() Make a good GUI, it would be much easier compared to MFC. Though at many places the implementation is crappy, but if you decide to (have you tried to untangle theĪrcane MFC message-mapping macros?) Swing has very nice architectrure, I worked also with win32 API and MFC before a few years and I'd say that Oh did I mention I hate swing? It's to hard to use and doesn't present a clear simple way to do simple things. > something about UI programming in Java"]]>So all we have is a tool that helps with the layout not a true GUI framework. That is what I hoped the UI Designer was all about.īUT from the documentation for the UI Designer - "The documentation assumes you already know ![]() With little or no knowledge of the underpinnings unless you need to do something advanced. A simplified model that does most of the grunt work for you in Designing the UI and the code connected to it. I keep avoiding becoming an expert on swing hoping against hope somebody will provide a tool for Java like Microsoft provides for windows programming. I have been working in java for two years now. I worked in C++/MFC for 7 years before moving to Java. ![]()
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